Ron Paul, who ran for president twice as a Republican and once as a Libertarian, was interviewed Monday by host Thomas Roberts at MSNBC about Paul’s thoughts on the 2016 presidential race. In the interview, the discussion largely focuses on the Libertarian Party and Green Party presidential tickets, and their respective presidential nominees Gary Johnson and Jill Stein.

Paul, in the interview, both comments regarding Stein’s foreign policy views and Johnson’s so-called gaffes in response to questions that Paul says amounted to “snap quizzes” in a couple MSNBC interviews.

Regarding the case being made for liberty in American politics, Paul says that “liberty is all chopped to pieces,” with different parts of liberty defended by progressives, liberals, and conservatives.

Watch Paul’s complete interview here:

Reprinted with permission from the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity.