Today I talked with hosts Ron Paul and Daniel McAdams on the Ron Paul Liberty Report. In the interview, I address how the United States government’s mass surveillance program continues unimpeded despite all the headlines saying that the recent expiration of PATRIOT Act Section 215 has terminated the snooping by the National Security Agency (NSA) and other government entities.

With Paul and McAdams, I explored the fraudulent reform that allows the snooping to continue, as well as the public education and legislative action that can end the mass spying program and other anti-liberty government actions.

Watch the complete interview here: